Thursday, November 11, 2004

GOP Wants to End Exit Polls

GOP Wants to End Exit Polls
A BUZZFLASH NEWS ANALYSIS

As a BuzzFlash Reader said: "Gee, let's make it REALLY easy to cheat..."

RNC Chairman Ed Gillespie wants to eliminate exit polls because he says they're not accurate, implying that the final vote was unquestionably correct.

GOP Wants News Organizations to Abandon Exit Polls (subscription req'd)By Doug Halonen, TVWeek.com

After early exit polls in Tuesday's election inaccurately suggested that Democratic presidential candidate Sen. John Kerry would trounce President Bush, Republican National Committee Chairman Ed Gillespie is recommending that major news organizations pull the plug on the prognostications.

In remarks Thursday at the National Press Club, Mr. Gillespie said he is among those who were stunned by exit poll reports, which leaked widely on the Internet. "I would encourage the media to abandon exit surveys on Election Day and do what we do in the political profession -- look at the precincts and the turnout, see who's turning out to vote," Mr. Gillespie said. "Don't build a model that you try to, you know, build your own thoughts into of what you expect it to be."

Mr. Gillespie conceded that the exit polls weren't reported directly by major news organizations themselves. "But with the Internet today, we're kidding ourselves, aren't we, to think that everybody in America doesn't know what the exit data is showing?" he said.

He also said he was personally affected by the early reports, discouraged by what he was seeing. "But I've been through this before," he said. "In 2000 the exit data was wrong on Election Day. In 2002, the exit returns were wrong on Election Day. And in 2004, the exit data were wrong on Election Day -- all three times, by the way, in a way that skewed against Republicans and had a dispiriting effect on Republican voters across the country."

Gillespie's implication that the final tally was correct, but the exit polls were wrong implies that our voting process is flawless and the people building our voting machines are nonpartisan and only interested in seeing a fair election.

Anyone with the slightest knowledge of the seriousness of the widespread problems we have with our voting systems or the highly compromised partisans running our voting machine companies knows a truly fair election is not possible.

Why would the GOP want to eliminate exit polls? Because it's the last semi-independent check of an election's accuracy and the only way to quickly determine if the votes cast for a candidate match those counted by the machines.

Sheldon Drobny: "There's a huge difference between polling what WILL happen and polling something that has already happened. The reliability of polling something that has already happened is highly reliable vs. predictive polls, like Gallup or Zogby, which is very risky. The reliability can be, not plus or minus 4 percent as we see with predictive polls, but rather a much more reliable plus or minus one half or one tenth of one percent with exit polls, because those are based on asking people who already voted. I would even say that if the exit polling were done in the key precincts of Florida and Ohio, which it was, then these results should be practically "bullet proof.'"

If the GOP eliminates exit polls before true verifiable voting is in place, there will be nothing left to warn us when our vote is stolen.

Lastly, note that Gillespie only refers to the 2000, 2002, and 2004 elections -- all the major elections since George W. Bush dropped onto the national political scene -- as "being skewed against Republicans." There is a very good reason the exit polls showed more people voted for Democrats -- they did.

As Greg Palast said, "...the exit polls are accurate."

Source: Buzzflash

30 Comments:

Blogger Rick said...

Words cannot express my chagrin. These are the people who are giving me a bad reputation just by being born in the same country.

I can only imagine that the coming years will repeat much of the Vietnam experience, including a draft for an unpopular war. I hope my imagination is wrong.

November 12, 2004 at 8:58 AM  
Blogger Sally K. said...

Anyone familiar with VNS dirty tricks? I sent this note to some friends. No, I did not vote Bush (or Kerry).

There is clearly vote fraud going on, but as per Jim Condit Jr.,
I have serious problems taking the media-manipulated "exit
polls" as some sort of gold standard. We all know the media
lies to us every day. Why should we expect them to tell the
truth on election night? They spin, Rove spins, we all spin.
The media folks are just as secretive about their exit polls
as Diebold is about their software.

The truth is that we the people have zero accurate information
unless we have re-countable paper ballots tallied openly at the
precinct level, with results posted publicly at the precinct house.
Exit polls are next to meaningless and if we voted right, we
wouldn't need them. We'd just have runners go from one precinct
to the next, taking photos of the precinct result signs, and
posting them on the internet. Heck, we could get the results
faster than Peter, Tom, and Dan. They would have to read our
websites to get the latest news! How's that for taking the
country back!

I pulled a couple of links from Jim Condit showing why exit
polls are a fraud.

http://www.votefraud.org/vns_box_comment.htm
http://www.votefraud.org/newspaper_dubuque_votefraud_1996.htm

"there are VERY few exit polls, most Americans have never
seen one, and do not know anyone who has ever seen one.
Next, at each exit poll, only about 1 out of 15 people will
talk to the exit poller. People are busy. They are running
to work, picking up the kids, coming home from work, etc.
etc. etc. Finally, the exit pollers in the two we have
caught up with MISS the rush hour periods in the morning and
evening! They show up about ten o'clock in the morning, and
finish about 5 PM ! We have video footage of the exit poll
lady pictured below (next to box) sitting on the phone from
5 PM to about 7 PM calling her "results" in on a pay phone,
while HUNDREDS of voters pass between her and our video
camera on the way to and from voting at this New Hampshire
High School where there were five polling places. (The other
exit poll we caught up with in Northern Kentucky in 1992
also saw the Voter News Service Exit Poll person gone by
5:00 PM.)

When I tried to talk to the exit poll lady at this New
Hampshire location, she got irate and called the policeman
who was providing security at this voting location. She
acted like I was threatening national security to ask her a
few questions challenging how these exit polls could
possibly be scientific."

November 12, 2004 at 4:01 PM  
Blogger Eric Stewart said...

Thanks, Sally, for your analysis. I have thought for some time that GW was a national emergency, prompting me to support Kerry - for a while. Not long before the "election", I came to my senses, seeing the game for what it really was. However, none of this stopped me from wanting to cover the proven corruptibility (perhaps inherently so) of the new, improved electoral system.

I will never vote for anyone like Bush or Kerry because, as Arundhati Roy points out, it is like a choice between Cheer and Tide, i.e. they function much the same.

November 12, 2004 at 7:37 PM  
Blogger Sally K. said...

You're welcome!! Here's another story about it. Diebold etc. has corrupt activity going on too but AP does the actual "counting". We need to watch all points of attack like hawks.

http://www.ecotalk.org/AP.htm

"The Associated Press (AP) will be the sole source of raw vote totals for the major news broadcasters on Election Night. However, AP spokesmen Jack Stokes and John Jones refused to explain to this journalist how the AP will receive that information. They refused to confirm or deny that the AP will receive direct feed from voting machines and central vote tabulating computers across the country. But, circumstantial evidence suggests that is exactly what will happen."

"But, can't the AP be trusted? Isn't it an objective non-partisan news organization? Some say no. The AP is batting for a Bush presidency."

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